SolidWorks 2008 Vista follow up

Too many new things all at once? Yeah, probably. But still, I have to do it. I mean someone has to. Jeff is off selling pencils or something, and so there’s nobody left to do reviews.
Anyway, SolidWorks 2008 (not yet endorsed by Chicken Little) and Windows Vista (also not yet endorsed by Chicken Little). So if you are meek and mild, this may not be the thing for you. You can live dangerously vacariously through my disdain for my own safety and comfort. I’m really asking for it. Maybe the sky will really fall this time. I must run and tell the king.
I’ve been trying to use both Vista and SW08 with the default latest-and-greatest settings. This is mainly to see if I like the new SW08 interface any better now that it has been out for a while, compared to my reaction to it from beta testing. I’m still not a fan of the context bars. Sure you don’t have to move your mouse much to select things, but you (I) spend so much more time with tooltips that any time gain is lost immediately.
Of course, Instant3D and RapidSketch are two gimmicks that get turned off right away. Quicktips help and those warnings reminding me that I haven’t saved in the last 60 seconds are next. The fly-out main menu is still distracting, and will get pinned permanently. The Heads Up View toolbar I’m trying to ignore. It seems that with the release of sp0, SW changed their strategy with toolbars shown in the default installation. Now it is only the new CommandManager and the Heads Up View toolbar. Here is a great shot of the “space saving” capabilities of the new CommandManager:
Saves space by making it all blank. Makes you use the flyout instead of using available space, and then covers over stuff you might want to see in the FeatureManager even though there is this entire blank toolbar. Ah, don’t get me going. This is supposed to be about SW08 together with Vista. Remember, this is a put-your-best-foot-forward default setting.

   

The first thing that struck me about working in Vista (shown on the right) was that the colors seemed to be different. Maybe this is just a prank being played on the colorblind, who knows? The color for selected items is blue instead of green. Also, the dynamic highlight color is orange instead of red, and the sketch relation icon background is green instead of blue. Sometimes. If you still have SW07 installed, then your 2008 colors will be just like they are in 2007 (as shown on the left). If it is a fresh installation, you’ll get the colors on the right. The value of changing colors, regardless of the reason, seems dubious at best. Anyway, what it comes down to is that Selected Item 1 and Selected Item 4 have been swapped, and the Selected Face Color and Dynamic Highlight have also been changed for God only knows what reason. After working with this for a while, it seems like a completely unnecessary change, although it’s a little unsettling, I don’t think there are any real consequences (or benefits).

***Update*** It turns out that this is just a setting, but it still looks like someone at SW sent out this version (sp0 ev) with a different default setting from usual. As mentioned above, the colors can be manually changed back to normal defaults if you want, but in this case, there are three saved color schemes for highlighting colors – Green Highlight, Blue Highlight and Orange Highlight.

 In SW07, the color scheme had several schemes like Blue Horizon, Hazy Day, In The Spotlight, etc. that used background images and color settings. In SW08 the new RealView Scenes made those kind of redundant. Still, the 07 schemes and the new 08 highlight schemes were both in the drop down list as late as pre-release. In sp0, only the highlight schemes remain. I think someone made a mistake by using a registry setting with the blue highlight defaulted on.
Much thanks to Anna Wood for calling my attention to the color schemes.****

Another difference between the images is that the Vista cursor doesn’t have an indicator for the type of entity it is hovering over. The indicators are really there, something odd just happened with the screen shot.

  Another jarring realization is that the Open dialog is drastically different in Vista. Some of that can be set back the way it was by setting Windows to use Classic Folders, in the Folder Options, but I’m going to try to get used to the new stuff to see if it has any benefit. So far, I notice that the little preview is missing in Vista, which to me is a big deal. On the plus side, though , Vista allows 4 sizes of thumbnails – small, medium, large and extra large. In reality, that’s only slightly more convenient than XP which required a registry edit to change the size of thumbnails.
Add to that, however, the fact that SolidWorks 2008 on Vista enables the “Show Thumbnail Graphics in Windows Explorer” by default, and grays it out so you cannot change it. What this means is that there appears to be no way to show a Detail view of a folder where the small icons show part or assembly icons instead of invisible thumbnails.
Some of this I’m sure is due to the interference of the new OS. Still, I’m hoping SW can get the preview/thumbnails/icons working in Vista the way they do in XP. Having to redevelop new ways of working with the SW interface every couple of releases is getting old. The enhancements that are supposed to bring more productivity in this release will inevitably be obsoleted in a year or two.  It just seems a little disruptive. I have still not forgiven SolidWorks for dropping the support for the QuickView functionality available in NT 4.0 from the Windows Explorer right mouse button menu for getting thumbnail previews. It seems they just can’t settle on anything. Oh, nostalgia has no solace in the computer world.
This part is about 32 MB, built in SW05. As a test, I saved this file out as a STEP file in 08 Vista, 08 XP and 07 XP. All the save times were within a couple seconds of one another. The part has 249 features. The rebuild time was 13 seconds in Vista, 15 seconds in 08 XP and 16 seconds in 07 XP. This isn’t an exhaustive or scientific test, but on first blush, things appear to look good for vista.
The computer this test was run on is a dual boot XP/Vista desktop, manufactured by Boxx, AMD Athlon 64 FX57 processor, 3 GB RAM and a nVidia fx3450 video card. The computer is not quite 2 years old.\n\nIn case you’re wondering, this is a part I did for Rubbermaid called an “Institutional Wringer”. Jails have to mop the floors, but they have to wring their mops with out metal parts that can be removed from an assembly. So this is a one piece mop wringer. Looks more like a big lettuce strainer, I thought. Ribs, draft and fillets…

 

And for all of those people who like to use the dancing dinosaur cursors…
    This is the new hourglass equivalent. The little ring circulates. Not a big deal, just different.

Here’s a little head scratcher. The pop-up shortcut bar that shows up when you select a mate from the FeatureManager has the Normal To option on it. Huh? When you click on it, it asks you to select something to be Normal To. Even the Zoom To Selection seems out of place, although it actually does something (it zooms to one of the parts of the mate, but not both). The shortcut bar is supposed to have the “most commonly used” tools on it. I’m sorry, I’m slipping back into bashing the interface.     

Here’s a little game you can play at home. In SW08 you’re going to have to know all of the icons for all of the RMB menu picks in addition to all of the toolbar icons in order to get the most out of the new productivity enhancements. Have you ever seen the movie Johnny Mnemonic, where Keanu Reaves gets computer data dumped into his brain? I feel a nosebleed coming on.

Anyway, we’ll call this game Johnny Mnemonic in honor of that pre-matrix cyber-punk memory master. Name all of the icons shown above. I was able to get 8 of them. How many can you get without looking at tooltips? (hint: this pops up when you click a part in an assembly)     \n\n

 

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I’ve had a couple of comment questions on the setup. First, SteveO asks about the Task Pane. There are more panes available… give me more pane, mamma always used to say. In the images below the right is XP and the left is Vista, both SW08. These are taken from different computers, notice that SolidWorks Search is on the Vista box and not the other. I think the File Explorer portion of it has the same options. Below it is shown with all of the options checked. Recent Docs, Samples, Open Docs, local comp, network, etc. It looks like the Wiley and Public folders are favorites folders, with just about anything in them you could want. These appear to replace the My Documents folder.

The RealView tab at the bottom of the tabs on the left is new, or at least changed from a set of tabs that used to be to the right and take up a column of interface space. Now instead, the Task Pane tabs interfere with the Confirmation Corner icons when windows are tiled. I think the shuffling of stuff around the screen was careless with 2008. There is no other word for it.

The RealView tab allows you to apply scenes and “appearances” (materials) to windows or parts respectively by drag and drop from the pane. It should be noted that backgrounds are now document properties, so you are at the mercy of other users, and can’t set up a consistent background for yourself unless you want to simply turn off RV backgrounds altogether, which isn’t a bad option for real work.

Ricky asked about Software OGL. No. I am not running Software OGL. The graphics functionality is pretty good, even with the RealView fluff turned on (reflections and shadows) which will probably be turned off as soon as I’m done writing reviews. My video card is the nVidia FX3450, and the nVidia site has a Vista specific driver available, which seems to work ok (no problems yet).Jeff says he’s not selling pencils. Maybe we can vote on this later. No doubt he is giddy from all of the interface interference between SW08, Vista and Office 07. Geez Louise, no thanks.

And of course HoffY rants about the Open dialog. I tend to agree. SW needs to spend more time on details, less time shuffling things around. Maybe HoffY could benefit from SteveO’s suggestion of abandoning the Open dialog in favor of the File Explorer. I would miss the ability to sort and change icons with the views in Open, but I’ll give it a shot. I’ve heard other people doing the same thing.

Ok, I’ve shown mine, now you show me yours. I want someone who likes the new 08 interface to show me specifically why they like it and why it makes them faster, and give counter points to my description of why I don’t like it. That would be valuable for me. People just say “it’s faster” or “there is less mouse movement” or “it takes up less space”, but I would like to see someone prove it, because I think I have proven that it is none of those. Maybe I’m just not using it correctly. Really, I’d like to see someone do this. Any takers?

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